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My latest designs on products…. (shoes and ties are outrageously priced on this site but maybe someone will buy them some crazy people do!)

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The t shirts are on the 2nd page or so

Ok well here is just a quick post to show you what I have started in 2D design class…. And to announce I FINALLY got my OWN t-shirt Design! Take a look isnt it sooooooo cool! Come on guys you know you want one!

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Remember my post bout a year ago about Post pre Rapture? Well I just have to bring this up once more…. Here is my original post…

First I must ask… Do you believe in Pre or Post-Trib Rapture? Think about it folks its very important! If you believe in Pre-Trib Rapture sorry to say but I am strongly convinced YOU ARE WRONG! If you believe it just because you were taught it but you dont know why you believe it and you dont have any proof of it… your stupid like I was. (No offense) If you believe it because you think there is proof for it your ignorant and haven’t used your head in logical manner. (No offense) First I would like to state, any “proof” in the Old Testament either FOR or AGAIN Pre Rapture… As far as i know and am concerned does NOT apply! Now the major proof for the pre rapture is in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18. It reads…

16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Well there is one problem with that…. It is no proof at all because it leaves out one very important element. WHEN? No where in that passage or before or after it does it say WHEN this will occur. There for logically you can say it is highly possible that the “rapture” is AFTER the tribulation! Now what proof do I have that it does take place AFTER? Well another common proof for the pre rapture is 2 Thessalonians 2:6-8

6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8And then shall that Wicked be revealed,

This which no one really understand in the first place does not prove pre-trip rapture. It merely states if read in a more understandable version like NIV….

6And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed,

Or…NKJV

6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He[d] who now restrains will do so until He[e] is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed,

This mearly states that there is something or someone that restrains saten from releasing his full power. Some people believe it is the church some say its the Holy spirit. I am convinced that whatever it or he is… it is ultimately controlled by God himself. Therefore God will allow the restraints to be taken away or release the Beast. So ultimately it doesn’t matter. Those who argue that its the Holy Spirit and that the Holy Spirit cant be taken away without taking the church with him. I don’t believe that is a valid argument. Now what you all have been waiting for the proof and all the proof you need that the pre-trib rapture IS NOT going to happen. Those who support pre-trib rapture have failed to read a few versus earlier in 2 Thessalonians 2 and to finish reading verse 8! 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8 reads…

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first , and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

“Man of sin” meaning Antichrist. All translations agree that this is what that statement means. So this explains that the 2nd coming of Jesus will NOT happen until AFTER the tribulation! “whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:” and the end of verse 8 clearly implies that the wicked is destroyed at the Lords coming. Now that contradicts with the pre-trib rapture because if the Lords coming is going to destroy evil then there would NOT be tribulation at all! In order for pre rapture to occur and tribulation after it there would NEED to be 3 comings of the Lord. The Bible says nothing about a 3rd comming! And so I rest my case!

So weather pre or post- trib rapture is right always be prepared because we do not know the day or the hour. We can only guess. But people WE MAY VERY WELL Be living through the tribulation folks! So don’t loose faith if that is the case. It doesn’t mean the Bible is wrong! It means you merely interpreted it wrong.

Now why I was inspired to write this? Well kinda one of those random passions that I got today. And in reply to this website and his arguments…

http://www.raptureready.com

Under the catagory “Reverse Logic Stuck In Reverse” he states…

Many people are against the pre-trib rapture simply because they see it as being the dominant view on the timing of Christ’s return for the Church. The anti-pretribulationists often think they are the last remaining true believers. I’m simply dumbfounded over why some people choose rebellion against the majority view as their guide for finding truth.

I say to you and I quote,
“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it’s time to pause and reflect.” -Norman Vincent Peale

Luke 13:24 “for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.”

Now let me add to that… I dont know why I didnt see this before but there it was right there in front of our faces the whole time! So how I came back to this is the other night my belief was tested, by reading Mathew 24: 40-41.

⁴⁰ Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. ⁴¹women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.

Now for no reason I panicked thinking wait that makes no sence! How can that be? Does that mean the “Rapture” or comming is BEFORE the end of the tribulation? But no the verse fails to mention a time once again as some of the above versus…. but to sum it all up all you need is Mathew 24.

We read through that chapter last night in youth group and its plain to see there is NO PRE tribulation rapture! Mathew 24: 21-23

²¹For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

²²And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

²³Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

You really have to read the whole chapter  but here it says the tribulation will come and he continues on talking to the saints about not believing when people say Christ has come or is there or here. Now why would he being saying that if the saints were gone before the tribulation? (he wouldnt) and to put it even more plainly out of the mouth of Jesus himself also…. Mathew 24:29-31

²⁹Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

³⁰And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

³¹And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Now if you have read this and still believe in pre trib or even MID trip rapture then you are either very stubborn or very deceived (stupid). Yes im very rude I know.

Well i wasnt all THAT bored but Kasie posted a nice pic of herself on the Willi blog so I decided to edit it! Here you go Kasie! Enjoy! lol

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If you havent already voted please vote for me in this contest I am in first place and I would like to stay there! So vote! lol
 http://www.competico.com/photo/crystals

Ok just really quick this is what I have been doing lately….

Designed a blog for Venter girls if some of you havent seen it look here…
 http://3uniqueladies.blogspot.com/

Design a blog for my South African friend Salome…(who btw has the CUTEST accent ) Not done with it but it looks something like this (i wont show you the REAL link to her site yet until she gets it up but this is my old business address that i dont use any more so i can edit it and stuff for other things….
 http://graphics-designs.desktoprevealer….

And I just changed MY Business Web blog thingy to a newer cooler much quicker loading (i think) layout (still not done with it yet though I HAVE to come up with a logo one of these days!
 http://totaljoydesigns.com

And now the rest you can just view in the below gallery! enjoy!

Oh and you view or BUY MY T SHIRT DESIGNS Go here! Or also see them on my side bar there along with other zazzle products! PASS IT AROUND PLEASE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS! And let them know im looking for WORK and LOTS OF IT!

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I dont know about you all but personally this has been a particularly not so good year… But i have HOPE for the new year! 2010! Wow! amazing! God lead us all into your will for the new year and for some of us new lives new places new things we do! Amen!